Pleased to Meet You, Ben Butler
Ben Butler's Fight to Enter the Courtroom
What is the ultimate purpose of trying to get into the courtroom? Is it just about handling legal bureaucracy, or is it about finding a backdoor out of the societal hamster wheel?
In this week’s episode, I sit down with Ben to unpack how modern infrastructure, legal mazes, and spiritual warfare are colliding in real time. We dive deep into the technical and the esoteric—explaining why the elite are obsessed with the 60 GHz spectrum, and how the combined roll-out of 5G, ULEZ, ANPR, and 15-minute cities fits into a much larger, darker agenda.
But this isn’t just a breakdown of the digital prison. This conversation is about the antidote. Ben and I discuss how it is possible to bridge awakened activism with mantra chanting, returning to a state of true One-ness to reclaim our sovereignty.
Grab a cup of coffee, escape the matrix for a couple of hours, and join us for a deep dive into the physical, legal, and spiritual battlegrounds of our time.
“(I am) Involved in the disabling of the 5G weapons system that has been identified in the UK. I’m an Aerospace Graduate trained by weapons designers and Radar specialists who could see the dangers of the technology, when I saw that it was being rolled out on my street I knew what had to be done. I’ve never really fit into the mould of whatever I am doing, so have a mix of creativity that comes with being solitary, but also the education of some traditional scientific subjects.”
Ben Butler
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QUESTIONNAIRE: Getting to Know
Ben Butler
🎬 Intro & Background
What is your name, where are you from, and where in the world are you currently based?
Ben Butler, from Cambridge, UK, currently residing in Cambridge, UK.
What is your professional background, and what occupies most of your time today?
Computer aided Design and Manufacture, Worked within the Automotive industry for a while, now mainly occupied by a national tour of the UK raising awareness about the 5G weapons network. My day job is Gardening, landscaping, handyman work, fixing things and building. Currently building a Sauna, but have also run businesses as an engineer for a street food business and generally making workflow more efficient wherever I go.
🤐 Taboo of the Week
What is a mainstream media topic, or an overlooked story, that you believe we are not allowed to discuss honestly—and why does it deserve our focus today?
5G is one of the most overarching topics of our time, which seems to be involved in all other topics somehow, from ”climate change”, ”Disease”, Animal illness, supply chain issues, 15 minute cities, trangenderism and demonic possession... All roads lead to 5G. I feel that one of the most important of these topics is demonic possession, because although that may not be the way that everyone frames it, the takeover of the body of man happens through the mind, and therefore it is easy to see that the mind is under attack using 5th generation weapons technologies and that as a result the bodies are being userpt.
🧭 Becoming a Dissident
When and how did you transition into becoming an outspoken voice within the alternative media landscape?
Being arrested for disabling weapons technoogy being rolled out illegally in England, Ireland, Scotland and Wales. I already was outspoken after being an observer to the Scamdemic, I watched for many months, not posting, not talking out loud. Eventually after meditating on it for some time realised that there really is only one option, which is to speak up.
Was there a specific catalyst or an exact moment you realized you could no longer subscribe to the mainstream narrative?
Scamdemic finished whatever faith I left off, but felt it for sometime before. Realising that the scamdemic was only a part of the process and being given the dealine of 2030, I realised that the time was now to step into my power and to act on my thoughs.
How did stepping outside the consensus impact your professional career and daily life?
Lost many friends, family, but gained so many more! Closed up businesses, had a win with crypto, stopped working for anyone, started working for myself and serving others wherever possible. For many months I just went into a kind of healing mode… Pushing away work and just doing whatever I had to to heal my body and mind.
Yoga, Meditation, Plant medicine, Sound healing, Fasting, Enemas, different diets, just anything that would heal my nervous system from all the drugs and abuse I had previously subjected myself to.
How has your work affected your personal relationships with family, friends, and former colleagues?
Brothers who won’t speak to me, friends who have disappeared into the shadows, got married, stronger relationship with those who stuck around (wife for example).
Did other independent thinkers or dissidents guide you on your journey? If so, who stood out to you?
Mark Passio, Chris Paradox, Henna Maria
What is something about your journey into dissent that none of us know?
The situation is always evolving and there are somethings in the background which I haven’t yet brought to the public, but mostly everything that I have done is known. I would say that they don’t yet now that if I wasn’t doing this I would be teaching about spiritual practices, energy healing and guided fasting. The tools that I have been shown to come back into my body and back into myself.
🛠️ Dissident Activities & Behind the Scenes
Could you describe what a typical workday looks like for you?
Podcasts, landscaping/gardening, giving talks, a million side projects, spending time with my wife. Always busy building something, or disarming weapons ;)
What is your methodology when it comes to research? How do you separate signal from noise?
Listening to podcasts, substacks, articles primarily then looking into concepts and primary sources from there (patents, papers, documents). Meditation is a great part of seeing the larger picture, becuase to see how things link up you have to get outside the blinkered vision of or personal projections. Trusting in the body and what you feel is one of the strongest things when speaking Truth, because it’s more than half the story. In this information age there is so uch information that is false that you eventually have to have a level of trust in what your talking about… You can’t rely on modern day Science to give you Truth for example, there is always a coefficient of Truth.
Do you invest significantly in subscriptions or support for other independent creators?
No not hugely, I support people every now and then when I feel called though I don’t like monthly payments, it keeps me on the hamster wheel! I also am not a hugely high earner so prefer to give when I get a pay out every now and then.
What are the hidden costs of running an independent media platform that the audience might not see?
Sacrificing ones own future, everyone in this game is in courts, writing legal documents, and investing large amounts of time to their cases – in this sense I am not an exeption, and it’s difficult to work a 9-5 while doing this. Mostly you will be taking a pay cut from my experience.
To what extent do you utilize AI in your workflow, and do you rely on premium AI tools?
I often use AI to find legal information for document writing, but use it as sparingly as possible, I try to bring my own writing in as much as possible. More time consuming generally but I like to still work my authentic creativity. Though it also is handy to use to mimic an attack on your work or evidence for future debates… It always pays to be prepared in this game where people are being paid to take you down.
Who are your own favorite dissidents or alternative media channels right now?
In all honesty, I don’t have many, since the police took my MP3 player which I used to listen to endless podcasts on I haven’t been listening to much. Though I enjoy Tin Foil Hat Podcast, Mark Passios endless work, Mark Steele, Mel Kate, Kris Brooks (LSB Productions).
What is the best-kept secret about your day-to-day dissident activities?
I chant mantra more than most things each day.
What exciting projects or content do you currently have in the pipeline for your audience?
Over the coming months I will be interacting with the police to try and get a court date, giving talks and taking further action! I also have felt the calling to bring some of my listeners into meditation days, teaching them how to escape the cell of the police station through escaping the cell of the mind.
🔮 Looking to the Future
What is the ultimate impact or goal you are trying to achieve through your work?
Raising awareness, both in the community about 5G telecomms companies and technology, but also within the system about the criminal complicity of the national/ international projects. I would like to bring people to a larger awareness of the impact of their spiritual work. That often the work in the physical world comes second to the alignment of the body and mind in peace. Peace > Joy > Love > Peace > ect...
Based on both your physical location and ideological perspective, what are the most likely local or global scenarios you see playing out in the near future?
In the dualistic physical realm, I can see that the cracks are becoming more visible in the illusion, and I feel that many will be joining the sanity of calling out corruption and government overreach to the point where those tricksters will simply have to yeild to the consciousness of the people.
From a non-dual perspective It is a game of consciousness, I see this playing out that people start to realise that all the is in our control is the understanding of being present, loving and peaceful – yet ready, willing and fearless to take action in mind, body and soul... This ”warrior-saint” energy will then not allow space for the nonsense to continue.
What is one conviction you hold to be profoundly true that the vast majority of society would strongly disagree with?
One-ness, non duality, non linear
💡 Closing Recommendations
If you had a direct line to those currently holding the levers of power, what would your message to them be?
Life is ForGiving, not ForGetting.
What is your final piece of advice or recommendation for the audience watching/reading this interview?
You never know what will happen if you take that leap, you know exactly what will happen if you don’t.
How can the audience follow and support your work, and which platforms or links should they visit?
How to find, follow and support
Ben Butler
The best place to go to follow Ben Butler’s work is his Telegram channel:
(Link: https://t.me/TrustTheSilence)
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Ben Butler’s first arrest:
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Ben Butler’s second - and latest - arrest:
Below you can find the first interview with Ben Butler that I put on The Danish Illusion podcast (remember to subscribe separately to this channel!):
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